Sunday, February 13, 2011

Sunday Morning Hate: Anglican pastor Thomas Musoke

Hateful Rhetoric from Religious Leaders

At the funeral for David Kato, Ugandan Gay Activist:

"The world has gone crazy,"  "People are turning away from the scriptures. They should turn
back, they should abandon what they are doing. You cannot start admiring a fellow man."

“You must repent. Even the animals know the difference between a male and a female.”

“Repent or be punished by God.”


Anonymous said...

where is the hate in this,
you and i woulndt be here right now if 50 years ago all males were mated to all males only

Steve said...

Really? At the funeral of a man this preacher does this? That's cool with you? Then we have nothing else to discuss.

BTW: again, your lack of logical consistency is showing. You're moving the goalpost.

Anonymous said...

Ok. I can see your point, Not appropriate at the funeral but that doesnt neccessarily spell hate. No goalposts were moved, I think u overlooked the concept, the idea OF MY ABOVE EXAMPLE ONLY ( FOR NOW) proves itself on its own, Yes it exaggerated but only to clarify. How much more logical can u get

Steve said...

It is hateful. It is the same as the Westboro Baptist Church showing up at funerals to protest soldier’s funerals or the funeral of the little girl killed in the Tuscon shooting. It is the usurping of a solemn event to advance ones religious, political, etc. agenda. Am I OK to assume that you would not approve of those tactics in other situations? Then you should not approve of them in any situation.

By the way; you are correct. It was not an example of “moving the goalpost.” You used a “non-sequitur” fallacy. You began with a claim that the actions of the preacher were not hateful and then followed that by saying if all men were gay you and I would not be here. Those two statements do not follow.

In the interest of addressing your original statement regarding the consequences of all males being gay and your subsequent “how much more logical can u get” claim: yes your example would be true, but it can only exist as hyperbole. There are a whole of logical fallacies inherent within your example. A 2010 survey by the National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior found that 8% of males ages 14-94 identify as gay. Your proposition of 100% is far from reality and very likely impossible. It is a Faulty Causation Fallacy. Not very logical...